Showing posts with label GE low voltage. Show all posts
Showing posts with label GE low voltage. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 3, 2019

New Replacement Parts for Residential GE Low Voltage Lighting

If your home was built in the U.S. between the 1940s and 1980s and you have odd retro light switches that look like these, you most likely have a General Electric (GE) low voltage lighting system.


This style of GE low voltage switch and cover is extremely common in homes with a GE brand system.

Here are 2 switches without the cover:


 Other styles and configurations exist as well. Here are some other examples.


You may have switches like the ones above, or some like the ones below:

See our full list of vintage styles of GE switches with images and part numbers. Use provided links to buy direct GE replacements at Kyle Switch Plates.

Replace Missing Covers for Original Vintage GE Low Voltage Switches

If your old switches are working and you need to replace missing or broken covers, we have Old Style GE Cover Plates that fit the original switches.

To cover original switches, keep the switches mounted in the original brackets and order replacement covers only.


The replacement covers for original GE low voltage switches come with matching screws and attach to the old metal bracket that has always held the switches in the wall box.

Available in classic ivory, crisp white or industrial-looking stainless steel.

Replacing GE Low Voltage Switches in Your Home

GE still manufactures switches to replace old ones that have gone bad.

If you think a switch is broken, the first step is to verify it is the switch and not the relay (or transformer) that's causing problems.

If a light in your home isn't working, use this GE Troubleshooting Guide for Low Voltage Lighting to determine which parts in your system are causing problems.

You are typically dealing with a broken switch if there is a single light that isn't working, the problem is intermittent (switch sometimes works, sometimes doesn't), and the same light works fine from another switch in the home.

The easiest way to confirm a switch is broken is to turn off the power to the switch. Take a working switch from another location in your home and use it as a temporary replacement for the switch that isn't functioning. If, when the power is restored, this fixes the problem, the switch is indeed broken.

Many homeowners decide to replace working switches in order to achieve a more modern look.

New switches are available in white, ivory and gray. New covers can be purchased in white, ivory and stainless steel.

For whatever reason you decide to replace a vintage switch, the following information will guide you through the replacement process.

GE's new replacement low voltage switches are not the same size as the older ones. This means that all switches that share a cover plate need to be replaced at the same time. The new switches are not compatible with the old covers or the old mounting straps/brackets.


Replace one switch = replace all switches + the cover they share.

It is very important not to put new switches into the old brackets! The slots on the old brackets are too small for the new switches. If jammed into the old bracket, the new switch will get pinched and eventually burn out the connected relay.


The good news is that the new style GE covers at Kyle Switch Plates eliminate the need for a mounting bracket.


Snap each switch into the plate from the front side, then wire them in (remember to turn off the power first) and attach the cover to the wall box.

Many homeowners install these new switches themselves using our GE Low Voltage Wiring Guide.

If you have any hesitation, hire an electrician.

Note that many electricians have not encountered residential low voltage systems before, so be sure to add this wiring guide to your order (free with purchase of any GE part) to assist whoever installs the replacement parts.

Shop New GE Low Voltage Switches.

Shop New Style Bracket-less GE Switch Covers.

Fixing Broken Relays in a GE Low Voltage System

The relay is likely the culprit if a single light isn't working, the failure is consistent (light stuck in ON or OFF position and won't change), and the light won't respond from any other switches that control it.

If some lights work and some don't, the failure is intermittent, and it sometimes takes pushing a switch multiple times to get the light ON or OFF, check the output on the system's transformer. In this situation, an output above 0 VDC indicates a broken relay.

As with diagnosing a broken switch, a working relay can be wired in place of the one in question. If the problem is fixed, it is the relay that needs to be replaced.


New GE relays can be purchased here. Don't forget to add a GE wiring guide to help with installation.

The 2 most popular selling GE relays are the RR7 and the RR9. The difference is the type of light switch each controls.


Look at your old relay and locate the part number.


Replacement relays are as follows:


Old Relay Part Numbers:

  • RR2
  • RR3
  • RR5

Replacement:


Old Pilot Relay Part Numbers:

  • RR4
  • RR6
  • RR8

Replacement:

New Transformers for GE Low Voltage Lighting

The transformer needs to be replaced if no lights in your system are working and the transformer output reads 0 VDC. Or, if some lights work and others don't and lights remain stuck in their last position (ON or OFF) and can't be controlled from any switch location.


The RT1-RT2 GE Transformer replaces the following discontinued models:

  • RT1
  • RT2
  • RT3
  • RT7

Wiring Tips for a GE System



You need one relay for every switch, unless you are wiring the switches in a 3-way setup to control the same lights from different locations. For example, if you have a switch at the top of a staircase and a switch in the family room which both control the family room's lights, they may be wired together so that the lights can be turned on or off from either location (but only need one relay).

You don't need "3-way" low voltage switches since GE switches can be wired in parallel to achieve 3-way functionality.

You can wire up to five relays to one transformer, depending on your setup. Consult an electrician to confirm how many relays per transformer is safe for your home.

To connect a new GE switch, turn off power to the switch, pull off or snip the wires (if soldered to the switch) and strip some of the casing from the end of each wire.


Once removed from old switches, insert wires into the red quick-connector terminals and crimp.


Snap new switches into front of new covers.


Then slide the quick connectors onto the flat connection terminals on the back of the switch.


Switch terminals are labeled  "BLK OFF" for the black wire, "RED ON" for the red wire, and "COMMON" (the center terminal) for the white wire.


Attach cover to box and restore power.

To wire a single relay, disconnect power and locate the large brass screws on the relay's base. Next, locate the four small holes on the bottom of the relay (two holes per screw, not labeled on relay; labeled 1-4 in image below). For a standard application, you will put the wire coming from the breaker into hole 1 or 2. The wire going to the fixture goes into hole 3 or 4.



For a 2-relay setup (example: same breaker powers multiple rooms - say a bedroom and a bathroom), the wire from the circuit breaker goes specifically into the first hole of relay #1. Then, a wire from the second hole of relay #1 goes into the first hole of the 2nd relay. The lamps get wired to hole #3 of each relay. Room 1's lamp connects to hole #3 on relay #1; room 2's lamp connects to hole #3 on relay #2.


Learn more and buy replacement GE parts at Kyle Switch Plates.

Thursday, August 30, 2018

How to Replace a Low Voltage GE Switch & Relay [Install Tips]

Update your old GE switches with modern low voltage parts.


If you have a GE low voltage light system and one of the lights in your home isn't working, you'll either need to replace the switch or the relay that's connected to the switch.


First, use this guide to determine which part needs to be replaced:

(See our GE troubleshooting tips for additional help with your system if multiple lights throughout your home (or ALL the lights) aren't working.)

*Old vs New Switches & Compatible Brackets:

See the difference between an old switch & new switch:


Here are some examples of old switches in old brackets.
New switches (with the black housing) should NOT be forced into these old rectangle brackets because the new switches are larger than the old ones.


If forced into an old bracket, the new switch can get pinched, malfunction and eventually burn out the connected relay.

New switches are only compatible with diamond brackets.
However, brackets aren't necessary when you purchase New Style Covers.

Replacing a Switch:

GE low voltage light switches have been updated since the 1950's.

The new switches have 2 square buttons - you press one side to turn the lights on and the other side to turn them off (instead of rocking the switch one way or the other to control the lights).

If you need to replace an original switch, you'll need to replace the cover plate (and any other switches in that plate) as well.

With Snap-In replacement covers for GE switches, you can install new switches without buying the new diamond-shaped brackets to mount them in the junction box.

The new switches snap into these cover plates, eliminating the need for a bracket.

Note: Snap-In New Style Covers are only available at:

Replacing a Relay:

Each switch is connected to it's own relay (unless two switches have been wired together to a single relay for 3-way functionality).

New GE relays can be purchased here. The two most common replacements are the RR7 and the RR9. Take a look at your old relay and pay attention to the number of wires coming out of the top.

If your old relay has 3 wires or is labeled as RR2, RR3 or RR5, you will replace it with the new RR7 relay.

If your old relay has 4 wires on top (one of which is for a pilot light - typically yellow) and is labeled with part numbers RR4, RR6 or RR8, your replacement will be the RR9 pilot light relay.

GE System Wiring Info:

Here is an overview of the wiring in an older home with a GE low voltage lighting system using an RR7 relay:


Back of GE low voltage switch:
The back of a new GE switch has prongs labeled 
"RED ON", "BLK OFF", and "COMMON."

TO REPLACE A SWITCH, use the quick connectors that come with the switches to connect:
the red wire (from the relay) to "RED ON" prong
the black wire (from the relay) to the "BLK OFF" prong
the white wire (coming from the transformer) to the "COMMON" prong


(For Pilot Light switches, there is an additional prong between the prongs for the black and red wires. Connect the yellow pilot light wire there.)

TO REPLACE AN OLD RELAY, connect the wires in the relay panel to the replacement relay as follows:
  • old red wire to new red wire
  • old black wire to new black wire
  • old white (or other color) wire to new blue wire

Where are these wires coming from?
As shown in the GE system diagram above:
The red wire runs from the relay to the "ON" terminal on the switch.
The black runs to the "OFF" terminal on the switch.
The blue connects to the system's rectifier.

The side of an RR7 relay has 2 brass screws, which are used to connect wires running to the circuit breaker and the lamps.

Look on the bottom of the relay, and under the screws you'll see 4 holes.


For a standard application, connect the circuit breaker wire into hole 1 or 2 on the bottom of the relay. Then connect the wire going to the lamp into hole 3 or 4.
If the same breaker is used to power multiple rooms (for example, your dining room & kitchen), you'll wire multiple relays together.


For the 2-relay setup shown above, the circuit breaker wire goes in the first hole of relay number 1.

Another wire connects the relays (from the second hole of relay one to the first hole of relay two (see diagram).

The lamps are wired to hole #3 of each respective relay.

These instructions do not cover all details or variations in equipment nor do they provide for every possible contingency that may be met in connection with the installation, maintenance or operation.

Information provided is subject to change without notice.

Kyle Switch Plates is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

Shop Replacement Parts for GE Low Voltage Lit Homes

Get a GE Wiring Diagram for all types of GE low voltage switches - free with any purchase on www.kyleswitchplates.com.

Other Examples of Old GE LoVo Switches:

Your vintage switch may look like any of these examples:

To replace switches from the top row (labeled "Standard Switches"), get new ge switches here. These switches go with the RR7 relay.

To replace switches in the bottom row, get new ge pilot light switches. These switches connect to RR9 Pilot Light relays.

Note, the locking RKS-6 and RKS-8 have key slots and require a key to turn the lights on and off. If you want to continue to use a key to adjust the lights, you can find replacements here:
Buy key switches for GE low voltage.
Buy pilot light key switches for GE low voltage.

Don't see your switch shown?

See all vintage GE switches & replacements for additional types of vintage switches.

OR, you may have another brand of low voltage system!

Check your relays to look for other brands such as Pyramid, Sierra, Touch Plate or Remcon. Use our Low Voltage System Identification Guide to help find your brand and replacement parts.

Friday, June 12, 2015

Replacement Parts for Old School Low Voltage Light Switches

We've heard a lot of terms used when referring to low voltage lighting systems. But our favorite is when callers describe their outdated light switches as "old school."

Do you have some old school light switches and cover plates in your home? There's a variety of older, outdated systems out there. So, to clear things up, here are the most popular lighting systems used in the United States in the early 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s.

Once you identify the system you have, we can direct you to the proper replacement parts.

Despard Style Switches

If your toggle style light switches go sideways and are stacked 3 high in a single switch plate, or if you have low voltage trigger switches by Sierra, then you have Despard switches. You might even have some Despard style outlets as well.

These switches and electrical outlets are all sold separately and sit in metal straps or brackets. They may say "Sierra" or "Leviton" on them.

Shop Replacent Despard Switches & Outlets

Shop Despard Cover Plates

Shop Relays for Despard Lighting System

GE Low Voltage Lighting

If your home has low voltage lighting, you might have these old fashioned GE light switches, which were discontinued years ago.

The good news is, GE does manufacture replacement switches, cover plates, relays and other parts.

You can learn more here: GE Low Voltage Replacement Parts Guide

Shop GE Low Voltage Parts



Bryant Light Switches

If your old style switch was made by Bryant, you will replace old parts with new GE low voltage lighting here.











Remcon Lighting Parts

Remcon was commonly installed during the 1950's and 1960's in U.S. homes. Most everything from this system has been discontinued and you won't find original replacement parts for a Remcon system, with the exception of new Remcon relays sold here.

If you need new Remcon brand light switches or cover plates, you can swap out your old switches with the newer up-to-date Touch Plate system.

Note that with Touch Plate, you'll have 2 buttons ("on" and "off") that replace each of your old Remcon switches. To replace an old plate with 3 Remcon switches, you will need a Touch Plate unit with 6 buttons - "on" and "off" for each old switch.

Shop Remcon Replacement Parts

Pyramid

Pyramid parts were discontinued in the 80's, and the replacements for Pyramid parts are Remcon relays and Touch-Plate light switches.

New Pyramid cover plates like the one shown cannot be purchased. If you need a new plate you will have to replace the switches as well (with Touch Plate).

Shop New Parts for Pyramid Lighting Systems

More Information On Low Volt Lighting:

For more info about old style light switches and currently manufactured replacement parts, see Kyle Switch Plate's Comprehensive Low Voltage Lighting Guide.